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פירוש על בבא בתרא 55:8

Rashi on Bava Batra

Mishna House of Throwing (irrigated) - Because of the water spring in it (the field) it is watered from it (the spring) continiously (and) it makes fruits continiously, and all thing that does fruits continiously their chazaka (pressumption of ownership, power over, hold) is 3 years from one day to the next, if the presummed has 3 complete years he does not need to bring a document of purchase (proof of purchase), and if a complaint against him (is raised) by the first owners and this one says i bought it (from them) and lost my proof of purchase his chazaka works for him, and without it his chazaka (him holding the property) doesnt work due to that when they said three years for chazaka (is meant to say) all that is proper to take out from it (the use of the land) in (during) three years is what they said (meant. So whatever would be equivellent to three years of produce).
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Rashi on Bava Batra

Field of the house owner - Nourished from rain water, it doesn't make fruits except one time in a year, his chazaka is 3 years and (it does) not need to be from day to day. And what is its Chazaka? Rabbi Ishmael says last three months of the first year and three first months of the last year and a complete middle (year), that (because) there is the hurry to plant before the the new year, and since the chazaka comes (at)three months at the end of the first year and he has witnesses that he planted in those three months and also in the first three months of the last (year), behold this is chazaka of three continious years, that (because) there isn't for you, a man who sees that his friend plants his field (so as) to eat the fruit made (grown) for the year and stays quiet.
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תוס שלשה חדשים בראשונה
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From rashi---------------------------------------------מתוך פירש הקונטרס
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its masmah from rabbi yishmael----------------- משמע דבעי רבי ישמעאל
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That he should plant and harvest ---------------------- שהוא יזרע ויקצור
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in those first 3 months and in the last 3 month באותן שלשה חדשים ראשונים וכן באחרונים
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And it's not a wonder ---------------------------------------------ואין תימה
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That produce that was planted after nissan -שתהא תבואה הנזרעת אחר ניסן
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It grows in 3 months and its season isn't ---גדילה בג' חדשים באין זמנה
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Till the upcoming nissan --------------------------------------עד ניסן הבא
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Because we find ---------------------------------------------------- דמצינן
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Like similar we do say -------------------------------------כעין זה דאמרינן
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in rosh hashanah ---------------------------------------------בראש השנה
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all produce that's harvested sukkos time---------כל תבואה הנקצרת בחג
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it is known that it grow a 3rd ---------------------- בידוע שהביאה שליש
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before rosh hashanah-------------------------------------לפני ראש השנה
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its seems to be -------------------------------------------------------אלמא
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it grows occasionally------------------------------------------גדלה פעמים
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in this time -------------------------------------------------------באותו זמן
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but the rei asks ---------------------------------------------אבל קשיא לר"י
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if so why ------------------------------------------------------- אם כן אמאי
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you need 18 months----------------------------------------צריך י"ח חדשים
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in 15 months----------------------------------------------------בט"ו חדשים
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its enough-------------------------------------------------------------סגי
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you should plant 3 months ------------------------------שיזרע ג' חדשים
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before Nissan-----------------------------------------------------לפני ניסן
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harvest in Nissan --------------------------------------------ויקצור בניסן
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2nd ---------------------------------------------------------------------ושניה
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the end of the summer ----------------------------------------בסוף הקיץ
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a 3rd in the upcoming year------------------------------ושלישית בניסן הבא
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tosfos answers ----------------------------------------------------וי"ל
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you need a major eating of a crop------------- דצריך אכילה חשובה של י"ב
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in the middle ---------------------------------------------------באמצע
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even though --------------------------------------------------אע"ג
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that we say in the gemara -------------------------------------'דאמרי' בגמ
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he ate 3 types of fruit ------------------------------------- אכל תלת פירי
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in 3 months --------------------------------------------------לתלתא ירחי
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for example ------------------------ כגון
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hay ----------------------------- אספסתא
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according to rabbi yishmael -------------- לרבי ישמעאל
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there is a chazka ----------- הויא חזקה
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there it's different ------------- שאני התם
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because it is its proper time---------- לפי שהוא זמן שלה
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but the rei has a question --------- אבל קשה לר"י
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we say in the gemara ------------ (:דאמרי' בגמ' (לקמן דף לו
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a big fruit ----------------------- פירא רבה
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a small fruit ---------------------- ופירא זוטא
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there is between them (a difference) ------ איכא בינייהו דר' ישמעאל ור"ע
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and rashi explains ------ ופירש הקונטרס
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rabbi yishmael holds --------- דר' ישמעאל סבר
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a big fruit ----------------------- פירא רבה
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for example barley and outs -------------- כגון שעורים ושבולת שועל
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it grows in 3 months---------- שגדלים בג' חדשים
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rabbi akiva holdes -------------- ור"ע סבר
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a small fruit ---------------------- פירא זוטא
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for example----------------------------כגון
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a fruit that grows----------------ירק הגדל
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in one month-------------------בחדש אחד
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and they say ------------------ והא אמרינן
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it says in the gemara later on ------------ (בגמרא (לקמן ע"ב
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aspasta (hay) that grows in 1 month --------------- דאספסתא בחדש אחד
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it is a chazuka according to reb yeshmeal ------ הויא חזקה לרבי ישמעאל
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it appears to the rei -----------ונראה לר"י
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rabbi yishmael does not require --------------- דלא בעי רבי ישמעאל
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that the wheat to be planted and harvested ------- שיזרע התבואה ויקצור
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even if the (first owner) planted ------------ אלא אפי' זרעה הראשון
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he the (machzik) planted in the last 3 months --------------------------- או הוא יזרענה בשלשה חדשים אחרונים
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even if he didn't cut it down ---------------- אע"פ שלא קצרה
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and in this they argue -------------------- ובהא פליגי
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rabbi yishmael holdes ------------------ דרבי ישמעאל סבר
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we need the growth of the fruit --------- בעינן שיהא גדל הפרי
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in his possession a lot ------------------- ברשותו הרבה
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for example ------------------------------ כגון
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three months ------------------------- ג' חדשים
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and this is a big fruit -------------- והיינו פירא רבה
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Rabbi Akiva holds ------------------------ ור"ע סבר
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because its not necessary to grow on his property - דאין צריך שיגדל ברשותו
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only for one month -------------- אלא חדש אחד
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and this is the meaning for small fruit ------------- והיינו פירא זוטא
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and if you're going to ask -------------------- וא"ת
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how will it be noticeable---------------- היאך יהא ניכר
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that he will be able to have a chazka ---------------- שיחזיק בה
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the 1st or the last -------------------- כל ג' חדשים ראשונים או אחרונים
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because in one day or in 2 days ----------------- 'כי ביום אחד או בב
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you can harvest ---------------------------- יוכל לקצור
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or to plant -------------------------------------------- או לזרוע
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if you are going to ask ------------------------- וכי תימא
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that he can weed the field --------------------- שמנכש את השדה
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you fix it ---------------------------------------- ומתקנו
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this is not a chazka ------------------ הא לא הויא חזקה
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similar to the way regarding plowing -------------------- מידי דהוה אניר
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like you say later on ---------------- (:דאמר לקמן (דף לו
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you do not have a chazka ------------------ דלא הויא חזקה
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because he the (owner) can say ------------ משום דמימר אמר
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every tooth of the plow --------------- כל שיבא דכרבא.
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stick it in (field) ------------------------------------ ניעול בה
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tosfos answers ------------------------------------------- וי"ל
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for example eating shacas ------------ כגון שאוכלה שחת
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like this we learned ------------------- (.והא דאמרי' (שם
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he ate shacas ------------------------- אכלה שחת
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there isn't a chazka -------------- לא הויא חזקה
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this applies ------------------------------- ה"מ
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if you eat in this way ---------- כשאוכל בענין זה
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the food doesn't grow back ----------------- שאין התבואה חוזרת
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in this it's possible to say ---------- לבא דשייך לומר
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this is not a way of chazka ---------------- לאו אחזקת
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like people ----------------------------- כדמחזקי אינשי
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therefore -------------------------------------- לפיכך
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he did not think to screem לא חש למחות??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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but if you ate shacas --------- אבל אם אכלה שחת
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in a way that it will not ruin the wheat ------ בענין שאין התבואה מתקלקלת
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the way people do ------------------- כדרך שבני אדם עושים
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so to by vegetable ------------------- בעוד שהוא ירק
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it didn't come --------------------------------- ולא בא עדיין
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- גבעול שלה????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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there is no chazka ---------------------- .הויא חזקה
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and buy a tree field ------------------------- ובשדה אילן
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in this the raban argue ------------- דבעו רבנן דפליגי
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with Rabbi yishmael in the gemara later on - אר' ישמעאל בגמרא????????????????????????????????????
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3 complete years ----------------------- מיום ליום ג' שנים
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even though --------------------------------------- אע"ג
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it's not possible to eat shacas over there (tree field) -------- דלא שייך התם אכלה שחת
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in all places --------------------------------------- מ"מ
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for example ------------------------------------------ כגון
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that he prones the trees ---------------- שזומר
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and he kept the branches for in self ---------- ומעכב העצים לעצמו
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even though -------------------------- ואע"ג
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they get fixed with it ----------------- דמתקן בכך
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and this is like plowing ----------- והוי כמו ניר
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- כיון (שמתקן) העצים לעצמו??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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it's not possible to say --------- לא שייך למימר
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every tooth of the plow --------- כל שיבא דכרבא
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stick it in the (field) -------------------- ניעול בה
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the rei says even more ---------- ועוד אומר ר"י
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that he made a chazka in it (field) -------- דאחזיק בה
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in this case ---------------------------- בכה"ג
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he locks and fences in the field ---------- שנעל וגדר את השדה
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and he locks the opening --------------- ונועל במפתח
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and he does not allow any person to enter ---------------------- ואין מניח אדם ליכנס
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and this that the gemara says --------- (:והא דאמר בגמרא (דף כט
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how do you make a chazka in a rock field ------------ צונמא במאי קני לה
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we don't say ---------------------------- ולא קאמר
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for example ---------------------------------------- כגון
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if he locks and fences --------------------- שנעלה וגדרה
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we do say ------------------------------- איכא למימר
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locking by itself doesn't help -------------- דאין נעילה מועלת
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rather if so --------------------------------------- אא"כ
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there is a eating in the field --------- איכא אכילה בהדה
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or planting ---------------------------------- או זריעה
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but if he locked it by itself (without an eating) ------ אבל נעילה גרידא
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it doesn't help at all --------------- לא מהני מידי
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and now ------------------------------------ והשתא
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it comes out good ------------------------- אתי שפי
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also to the rabanan and rabbi yishmael ---------- נמי לרבנן דרבי ישמעאל
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Rabbi Akiva says etc. - Explains the Gemara in what they argue.
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In what is this statment - that 18 months is needed for the field of the house owner.
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In the white field - That all its fruits are collected at once, therefore 3 years is needed.
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But in a field of the trees - that their fruit is collected in parts, grapes in one part, and olives in another part, and figs in another part.
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Brings in his crop - (Bring in the) wine of the vine.
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And cuts (harvests) his olives and gathers in his dried figs - figs plucked and dried in it (in the field), and spread out (for the sun) and brought in to the house. Behold this is Chazaka like if it has been three years.
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Gemara: From Travelers to Usha: That the exhiled Sanhedrin (court) (went) to Usha, like it was stated in Rosh Hashana (Page 31a), Ten exhiles, exhiled was the Sanhedrin... from Yavne To Usha from Usha...
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Not liable - to pay but half the damage, also here until the end of the fourth year it will not be chazaka.
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